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Rich Helppie The Common Bridge's avatar

ANOTHER THREAD FROM FACEBOOK, FROM COMMENTER LINDA: Curious there is no mention of the former president and administrations Big Lie with attempts at overturning the election or the forged documents from 7 states we are hearing about. These newest laws are directly due to election integrity lies; period. If you are going to criticize current president on voting deceit so to speak; seems to me more should be said about where all this mistrust began. Too much is not said. Voter suppression and subversion are very real and this comes from many scholars and think tanks not just talking heads or media bias. The biggest threat is not voter suppression so much as it is voter subversion which is not discussed. Plenty of credible information out there. The problem does not rest entirely with main stream media. The biggest problem is the sheer laziness and ignorance of voters who rely on one source rather than responsibly sourcing their information. Critical reasoning is a rare commodity.

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Rich Helppie The Common Bridge's avatar

What's in the bills? I've read them. Have you?

The whataboutism about a failed and unqualified former president are distractions.

If you have actual citations instead of "everybody says", you will find a welcome audience on Substack.

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Bringing this over from Facebook - a comment from Thomas Hicks:

Rich, this is very insightful. I concur with most of your points, but offer a brief dissent regarding the media. There are and have been a select few venerable agencies that haven't succumbed to the "us" vs. "them' mentality in their style of reporting. Sadly, because of their stances they are the same agencies that don't garner very much attention.

America has sadly opted for quantity over quality and opts to consume news from the same agencies that tout themselves as "America's number one". It's what I tend to refer to as the "follow the crowd" mentality.

Among the venerable agencies whose models don't correspond with the aforementioned "us" vs. "them" model are Reuters, The Associated Press and P.B.S. I'll go one further and add N.P.R. as a fan who also once worked at the Atlanta affiliate. As much as it may strain credulity, this southern black man actually loves the B.B.C.

I'm not sure what it will take for the news consuming public in the U.S. to start seeking out quality and factual reporting vs. the model it's currently glued to, but I can only hope that this pendulum has swung as far to one side as it can.

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I would respectfully disagree with a couple points. NPR has given up their role as impartial. Recall they were part of the lie that hospitals were overrun with ivermectin overdoses. AP may have been too. They have embraced the method of endorsing a story too good to check out

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Rich Helppie The Common Bridge's avatar

Thomas: I'm up really late on a school night having just finished watching the Cardinals vs. Chargers so I'm going to hate myself in the morning. 🙂 I'll need to keep myself honest and research the reporting from NPR regarding ivermectin.

In defense of NPR in their quest to present all things factual, I was pleased last week that Steve Inskeep held his own against more false peddling of the BIG LIE during his segment with 45. I'll be happy to keep following this thread on Substack.

Fortunately for me at this point Reuters seems to have come out unscathed......thus far.

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Rich Helppie The Common Bridge's avatar

Rich: And if AP or NPR ever did a straight news story on the contents of voting bills, I’d love to see it.

As a Georgia man you must be getting weary of the idiotic things said about your state.

Hope to see you commenting on Substack soon. Some great reporting going on there.

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Rich Helppie The Common Bridge's avatar

THOMAS: Rich, I'm even more weary of the idiotic things being said by Marjorie Taylor Greene, and the fact that those idiotic statements are being given coverage by media intent on throwing red meat to their audiences....

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Rich Helppie The Common Bridge's avatar

THOMAS: one final thought before turning in, you noted NPR and possibly the A.P. having lost its credibility as being impartial and cited a specific example regarding reporting on ivermectin. Can or should the credulity and/or credibility of respected agencies be questioned based on reporting regarding a singular topic?

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Rich Helppie The Common Bridge's avatar

One foul wouldn’t determine a verdict. Repeated offenses without mea culpas is another thing. The red meat is inflaming you with whatever some fringe knucklehead is saying. Often without context, carefully edited, and complete with an inflammatory headline.

Those business models are taking advantage of conscientious people like you. You want to trust them, but they keep showing true colors. Consider why feeding you Marjorie Green comments but not calmly saying actual contents of voting bills?. Which would be more valuable to you and to a free society in general?

At one time in recent past you were extolling reportage of Rachel Maddow. You wanted to trust her. Close observers knew then what everyone knows now - she is a fraud and a huckster to get eyeballs and sell ads.

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Joseph Marion's avatar

Great discussion. Unfortunately, I suspect in today's polar environment, a bit too idealistic. I wish it weren't, and too bad the politicians can't think like you and become the grate unifiers. Also, what about State's Rights? Aren't they being trampled on here? People need to get back to the founding principles of this country - the founders understood what this would mean to the country - why can't people understand that today?! Keep up the great work, Rich!

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The Common Bridge's avatar

Thank you much. I concur that the environment is polar. However, the more people who reject the partisan polarization and the corporate media echo chamber, the sooner we shall see a change for the better. Appreciate your support of The Common Bridge.

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